First to even determine if there is a 911 conspiracy, we must find what, if anything, is wrong with the official statement. This for ease of reading has been broken down into two segments/problems with official World Trade Center (WTC) story, and problems with official Pentagon story, which is on the next page.
WTC: Official Story Debunking
The first supposed problems with the official version of the events on September 11th comes before the planes even leave the airport. For the Arab terrorists to have carried out the attack, four of the 19 terrorists would have needed to be able to fly a two engine plane.
Yet none of the terrorists had a pilots licence, and one of the pilots Hani Hanjour, had gone for lessons, and had been deemed unsafe to fly even a one seat plane.
Marcel Bernard, the chief flight instructor at the airport, said the man named Hani Hanjour went into the air in a Cessna 172 with instructors from the airport three times beginning the second week of August and had hoped to rent a plane from the airport. … Instructors at the school told Bernard that after three times in the air, they still felt he was unable to fly solo … — The Prince George’s Journal (Maryland), 2001-09-18, as quoted in Operation 911: NO SUICIDE PILOTS
But there is a difference between being skilled enough to fly a plane professionally, and just being able to fly the thing in the right direction (no need to land etc…). A professional has to take into account airspace, landing, fueling up, airplane checks.
I myself could right now purchase an adventure day out where I could fly a plane for 30-60 minutes (depending on where you buy the day out from.) Admittedly I would be with a trained pilot all of the time, but after three times in the air I probably would be able to fly the plane. Not safely enough to get a licence, but well enough to get from the airport to the World Trade Center!
This is assuming that this was the only time the Arab terrorists had flown a plane.
But even if the entire 19 terrorists were crack pilots could they have realistically got hold of the planes in the first place on September 11th? The conspiracy theorists think not:
The official story expects us to believe that these alleged nineteen on-board hijackers (acting with military coordination and precision) overpowered the flight attendants (with nothing more than box cutters and shouted commands), forced their way into the cabin (were all eight official pilots absorbed in contemplation of the clouds?), overpowered the pilots (apparently none of them, some ex-military, could offer any resistance to hijackers armed only with box cutters), took command of the planes
This is not such an unbelievable story, since out of the list if people given there, only the eight pilots would have been of any real help in combating the terrorists. (Lets face it, flight attendants are not designed for hand to hand combat.) and even with Ex-military training, 8 Vs 19 is not a good number to have against you. Add to this good planning, and the weapon of surprise, there seems to be nothing wrong theoretically with this approach.
I have stumbled on this site by accident and have read it out of interest….
I think those of you who believe in the conspiracy theories are crazy.
True the US government may like to control the flow information given out during its investigation but that is no different to say a police murder investigation, you wouldnt see the police revealing their cards straight away.
The two towers were indead made out of steel and concrete. steel has a meling point of about 1300 degrees. the concrete provides a degree of fire protection to the steel to stop it from melting. during an intense fire such as the thousands of gallons of aviation fuel burning will and did cause the steel to soften enough to buckle. as soon as the steel did buckle the weight of the floors above (thousands of tons) was all that is needed to collapse the lot.
Hyjacking a plane used to be easy, just walk straight into the cockpit. noone else on the plane would necisarily have known it had been taken over.
Also i think far too many people think it was used as a reason to invade iraq. IRAQ is a completely different conflict. Afganistan is where the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are hiding.
What about all of the firemen who said the heard and saw explosive charges going off? What about the Pentagon…where did the plane go? Where were the wings, tailgate, luggage, bodies? What about the plane in Pennsylvania? Where did it vanish to? Come on man! 19 Hijackers with box cutters? What happened to Norad? Where was the Air Force fighters that were supposed to scramble instantly after the WTC was hit to protect the White House and Pentagon? Come on man! Why was evidence totally destroyed? When do you ever destroy evidence…ever? Come on guy! You’ve gotta be kidding me right?
here, 9/11myths.com, you have obviously read the conspiracy side, now read the real quotes, the real science and decide for yourselves, this is the most complete site and very easy to navigate, for more in depth questions, try jod911.com, I recommend the paper by bret blanchard, and ryan mackey, then you can read mark roberts paper on the loose change bunch and expose their lies….
obviously you know nothing about jet fuel. it burns at about 1700 degrees Fahrenheit that could easily disintegrate or destroy a lot of the jet. plus the fact it crashed could cause it to be smashed. also the plane crash in Pennsylvania didn’t disappear have you not seen pictures of the crash site there are jet parts everywhere. you’re a stupid ignorant idiot who is sucked up into what everyone else is talking about/or doing.
Let’s taddress the social enterpeneurship of the 91101 fictional conmspriracy theroies that are made by thoes whom are attempting to profiterr off of the terro ist attacks. Tere are no mysteries as the planes that hit the WTC towers caused enough damage at the impact floors and seconday fires to cause the connection points of the floor trusses to fail. Causing the itiation of the collapses in each tower. Wtc 7 was hit by wtc south tower as it collapsedand subes quentlt toppeled over towrd the damaged are of the wtc 7 tower. It covered the road and blockeit so there is no real mystery about a steel truss structure weakened by fire being hit by upper stories of a 2,000 foot 1 ac square building. The fact is that some of the basement levels survived in the 16 acre site so the idea of large ares of molten steel only applies to parking areas underground that caught fire.
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Can you explain what NORAD could have done about the planes that hit the WTC towers? I have yet to hear anyone put forward a plausible scenario where NORAD could have done anything to prevent those crashes happening.
As far as the collapse of the three WTC towers in 9/11, the official investigation (and others supporting it) is not convincing. The real question is how can three skyscrapers collapse in a controlled manner the way they did in 9/11? Structural damage; whether caused by fire, impact or debris should not cause the buildings to fully collapse and in such a controlled way. Demolishing a building is a science in its own right and needs experts to do it. If three skyscrapers went down in an almost controlled manner in the same day then I must say we don’t need demolition experts anymore. Why do we need to fill buildings with explosives in order to demolish them? Why don’t we only plant explosives at the top floors and watch the building collapse as the top floors take care of the floors below like the WTC towers?
Structural damage can cause a building to partially collapse; for example at one side. The building should basically collapse gradually. But in 9/11, three buildings, the first: boom .. from top to bottom, the second: boom .. from top to bottom, the third: boom … from top to bottom. No where else this have been seen except in controlled demolition. Buildings tumble on one side, partially collapse, etc. but not fully and very fast.
Your quote below…an “adventure day” plane is a lot different from a Boeing 757/767. You clearly know nothing about how difficult such a plane is to fly, let alone crash squarely into a building that barely exceeds the wingspan of the aircraft. You must think it’s like playing a video game with a joystick? Maybe you also think that because you can drive a Honda sedan, you’d have a chance of completing Indy 500, or that because you can pick up a tennis racquet, you might have a chance of beating Roger Federer.”
“I myself could right now purchase an adventure day out where I could fly a plane for 30-60 minutes (depending on where you buy the day out from.) Admittedly I would be with a trained pilot all of the time, but after three times in the air I probably would be able to fly the plane. Not safely enough to get a licence, but well enough to get from the airport to the World Trade Center!”
Is it possible for everyone that calls the “conspiracy theories” crazy, to not accept the opinions of others. They could very well call you crazy for literally speaking the government, trying to shelter us from the facts completely. I think its funny that no body mentioned that Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center, took out an insurance claim of 7.1 billion dollars, just 6 weeks before 9/11,and the insurance claim included terrorists attacks. funny, huh?
Okay, here’s a question:
If you were on a plane, and a voice came over the intercom saying “We’re gonna crash the play and kill you all!!”, would you
(A) Stay seated on a one-way ticket to death
(B) Fight like HELL to get to the cockpit to save you butt?
Personally, I think that it would be almost impossible to hi-jack a plane, even if the terrorists had guns and other weapons. Think about it; about 50 people versus 3 to 5 people with limited ammunition. Overcoming them would be so simple.
YOUR LOGIC IS FAULTY. IF YOU POINT WEAPONS AT AN UNORGANIZED GROUP FEAR WILL PREVAIL IN MOST CASES. THE GROUP WAS ABLE TO ORGANIZE ON THE FLIGHT OVER PENN. AND CAUSE IT TO CRASH. THIS THEORY HAS TO MANY HOLES TOO MANY AMERICANS WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE INVOLVED FOR THIS SO CALLED CONSPIRACY IS IMPOSSIBLE.
do a little research into the facts not this fiction that conspricy theroist that are undereducated and underqualified amature researchers trying to sell you an false story.