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A plea for sanity…
You are a cult. You are NOT any smarter, more informed, or superior in any way to the rest of us.
The methods that were used to draw you in and how you attempt to draw in others are very frightening to me, especially when I see how well it seems to be working. You have the most intolerant, hateful, insulting emotionally charged tone to your preaching, making every attempt to belittle and shame people into believing exactly as you do. You present your theories as fact and ridicule those who disagree with you.
This is how cultists operate.
I know by posting this, every one of you so-called “truthers” will post responses attacking me, probably without even reading all of this, claiming I’m blind, ignorant, or somehow in on this conspiracy, just as you do with anyone who says anything to disagree with you.
I’ve tried time and again to have rational discussions with you people and it always yields bitter results. I’m always mocked and insulted, which does nothing but makes me angry, and the opposing party is always frustrated that I never cave in and agree.
Most of the “truthers” that I’ve debated with claim they want to “take our country and our freedom back”. They claim THEY are the true patriots and that they are defending our constitution from those who have allegedly subverted our government, but I see no evidence that you encourage freedom of speech at all. This is where you might attempt to turn it around on me and call me a hypocrite for trying to suppress your opinions, but unlike you I have no problem with someone expressing a different point of view.
Fanatical devotion to your belief is what I have a problem with.
What’s really sad is the fact that I write all this knowing full well I will not get through to a single person, but I can always hope. I can hope that at least one person will wake up and realize they have been brainwashed. I can hope that at least one person will decide that maybe the people who are selling these theories don’t really have the best interests of the country in mind. I can hope that at least one person will understand that those who continue to push their version of the events of 9/11 don’t care about anything but their own agenda.
And that will continue to be my hope.
You have no proof of any of the claims you make and you never will.
i totally agree with FU the post above mine. you are ALL brainwashed if you think the US government had anything to do wih 9/11….. You all should be confined to a small room and have cylcon B shoved in.. just like the killing of jew, pols, and all the others never happened.
The attack on the World Trade on 9/11-our government knew all about it before it happened. It was a mass conspiracy for our government to implement the Patriot Act which undermined our civil liberties. Now, if this was not the case, I think the Patriot Act would not have been implemented. Anybody who claims that 9/11 was not an inside job is deceiving themselves.
God there are some really sick US citizens. if you dont like it in the US MOVER OUT. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE….. WE DONT NEED YOU OR YOUR KIND HERE. Go to another country and when your jailed and butt fucked in your ass and mouth with out a trial maybe then you will say the US is a good country….
Norad, its primary function is defensive and external (ie: detection of ICBM attacks on the USA for example). It’s also designed to and constantly does monitor all air space over north america.
I’ve just taken a look at the norad website and they claim that they have only had that responsibility since sept 11 201 ” Cheyenne Mountain added another mission to its historic legacy in the defense of North America. The terrorist attacks against the United States marked the beginning of Operation Noble Eagle. Operation Noble Eagle is a homeland defense mission incorporating NORAD’s mission of Aerospace Warning and Control to include the monitoring of the interior airspace of Canada and the United States. Today, NORAD and CMD stand ready to assist the Federal Aviation Administration and Navigation Canada in responding to any threatening or hostile domestic aircraft.”
I am petty sure however that the scanning of internal north american space was controlled by norad prior to sept 11 2001 and the FAA were a part of that process (it may be that Norad is singularly now responsible). I’ve jsut looked it up and FAA is part of the process prior to sept 11 “NORAD’s role in that case is to issue “scramble orders” for interception of the errant flight by jet fighters from U.S. Air Force Bases (“AFBs”). Interception of an errant flight allows for visual reconnaissance of the situation and a graduated menu of possible further actions (these might include attempts at radio contact, looking into the cockpit of the errant aircraft, visual signals such as tipping wings, attempts to force a landing, etc.).”
On the day in question NORAD was running exercises where attacking buildings with planes was one of the scenarios. those exercises it is claimed clogged nORADS ability to respond. Norad normally scambles within 10 minutes (nearest base was Mcguire AFB NJ), on sept 11 it took 80 minutes (I believe) to get it all happening. I have read a disgruntled report from one of the intercept pilots and that in itself is enough to make me think that something deliberate occured to delay them.
As for FU’s comments above their is nothing to comment on. A very unhelpful commentary.
Norad constantly sends intercepts within US airspace so your clearly misinformed about that. Intercepts happens consistently and constantly, normally they are not serious (ie trainee pilot takes a wrong turn etc).
It really is hard to believe that the Sept 11 incident isn’t a conspiracy when you have all the facts presented to you. Firstly, I was watching the news when the reporter clearly said “It is believed that the US military has shot down flight 146.” they then were interviewing a witness. About 10 minutes later, they change the story with no mention that the original report was false.
Also, the planes that crashed into the towers WERE NOT PASSANGER JETS! Since when did airliners start using windowless planes?
What about the countless testimonials from firefighters that heard multiple explosions? That was also reported in the news report but it was then “not mentioned” again – just like the 146. What about the building that was “pulled” (demolished)? Do you know how long it takes to set up explosives to destroy a building and make it fall down perfectly? That also goes for the multiple explosions heard from tower A and B. They too fell perfectly. If the planes were the cause to the buildings demise, they would have fallen over.
If you all are as smart as you think, take a look at the hole in the pentagon. If you tell me a plane caused that, i will tell you that you need to have your eyes examined. Think physics for a moment and take a look at that hole and tell me a plane caused it… Think about the heat that jet fuel burns at and the lack of damage done to the structure.
The pentagon also has a mass array of CCD devices fitted to the exterior of the building – No footage was ever released…
And… How the hell did terrorists comandeer 4 passanger jets with little knowledge of how they operate. All airliners have a special computer in their aircraft which plots a course and makes adjustments based on radio beacons on the ground. Even if they had flight experiance, there is no way in hell are they going to know how to disable that device. Also, how did they know where the transponder was located? And, if they had removed it (in 4 aircraft) ATC would have noticed. They have never admitted (or denied) anything happened.
If you ask me… There is something suspicious here. Even if this wasn’t a conspiracy theory, the US government is hiding something.
To those who think this was purely a terrorist attack without any government involvement – you need to stop being a sheep and open up to possibility.
If Osama was behind it… Why has he not been caught?
Do the math on all of the events. You will see suspicious stuff emerging. You don’t need a PhD like me to see that.
Go somewhere else…if you hate america…leave…this is the only country in the world where you could spew this crap and get away with it…..you are all nut cases
For all the people that believe the twin towers collapse as explained by the 9/11 Commission report: that is the falling top stories crushed and destroyed all the rest of the floors of the WTC towers underneath…. I invite you to do a simple physics experiment.
Get 5 eggs from you fridge… use some dough or whatever, form little donut rings so you can balance the eggs, one of top of another, to form a column of eggs with 4 of the eggs. Then take your 5th egg, and drop it from a height of say a foot or so, such that it hits your column of eggs, and tell me what happens.
Physics, in accordance with Newton’s 3rd Law, the laws of Conservation of Momentum, and the laws of Conservation of Energy, does not allow the twin towers to have collapsed the way they did.
Simply look at the billowing dust clouds as the towers collapsed. The only other times you will see such phenomenon are billowing ash clouds rushing down the mountain side of an erupting volcano, or from an detonated explosion: a lot of energy in the form of heat is required to form such expanding and billowing clouds.
If it was an attack on U.S soil like we are led to believe (by terrorists) then it has got to be one of the most highly planned attacks ever. It would have been planned years in advance and cost a hugh amount of money to train pilots etc etc. So how come the only other thing we have seen since then is a bunch of lame efforts like driving a car into the side of Glasgow airport with a jerry can of fuel and setting fire to themselves. Are these meant to be the same master minds that attacked New York?? Dont tell me they have decided to stop all of a sudden because the USA is actually quite nice. Doesnt it seem a bit strange we have seen nothing else like 9/11 since!
It seems all a man like you does is throw out “wacko” and “conspiracy”. What about all of the men and women that absolutely denied that the towers could’ve fallen at such a rapid speed despite the fact that they should’ve been able to withstand such attacks?
What “hit” WTC 7? Why did it fall at breakneck speed? What about the little puffs of smoke that appeared before the initial damage of the airplane really took affect? Where was NORAD? If this was just a planned attack by Muslims how did they know that NORAD would be running training exercises with all of these separate “dummy” airplanes in the sky?
There are things I’m not sure I believe about these “wacko” conspiracy theorists. For instance: no planes. I wasn’t there, after all but there is some footage that doesn’t show an airplane. Another I’m not sure about: remote controlled airplanes. I hear the man who supposedly had control of the one that got flown into the pentagon didn’t even pass his tests. That he wouldn’t have been able to make such a turn and then level it out towards the section, in some miracle, didn’t have anyone important in it and was under construction.
What about all of these laws recently passed by the Bush administration? Can you just continue to say they’re for safety against terrorist?
Also: our government is highly capable of killing almost three thousand of its own citizens for personal gain. It’s called a false flag, if enough power sway is involved I’m sure most government would take part in such a thing. We’ve sent thousands of young men and women to fight in an unnecessary war. Where are the WMD, if you don’t mind my asking? We’ve never found them and if we have why hasn’t there been any reporting on them?
And what do you think of NAFTA, sir? What do you think of the fact most of the general/mainstream media denied its existence and called it either “nonexistent” or a “conspiracy”?